AstroNova Inc (NASDAQ: ALOT) This fall 2022 earnings name dated Apr. 14, 2022
Company Members:
Scott Solomon — Senior Vice President
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
David S. Smith — Vice President, Treasurer and Chief Monetary Officer
Analysts:
Samir Patel — Askeladden Capital — Analyst
John Deysher — Pinnacle — Analyst
Tom Spiro — Spiro Capital — Analyst
Presentation:
Operator
Good day and welcome to AstroNova’s Fiscal Fourth Quarter and Full 12 months 2022 Monetary Outcomes Convention Name. [Operator Instructions]
I might now like to show the convention over to Scott Solomon of the Firm’s Investor Relations agency, Sharon Merrill Associates. Please go forward, Sir.
Scott Solomon — Senior Vice President
Thanks, Diana. Good morning, everybody and thanks for becoming a member of us. Internet hosting this morning’s name are Greg Woods, AstroNova’s President and CEO; and David Smith, Vice President and Chief Monetary Officer. Greg will talk about the Firm’s working highlights. David will take you thru the financials at a excessive degree. Greg will make concluding feedback after which administration can be pleased to take your questions.
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These forward-looking statements are primarily based on a variety of assumptions that might contain dangers and uncertainties. Accordingly, precise outcomes might differ materially besides as required by legislation. Any forward-looking statements communicate solely as of as we speak, April 14, 2022. The Firm undertakes no obligation to replace these forward-looking statements. For additional data concerning the forward-looking statements and the components which will trigger variations please see the danger components in AstroNova’s annual report on Kind 10-Okay and different filings the Firm makes with the Securities and Change Fee.
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With that, I’ll flip the decision over to Greg.
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
Thanks, Scott. Good morning, everybody and thanks for becoming a member of us to evaluate our fiscal fourth quarter and full yr 2020 monetary outcomes. I wish to begin as we speak by acknowledging the excellent work of our greater than 360 workforce members world wide. In what was a particularly difficult yr, we labored tirelessly to maintain themselves and people round them protected whereas persevering with to supply excellent service to our prospects.
Whereas COVID-19 has step by step receded into the background in sure areas over the previous a number of months, the financial penalties of the pandemic, together with provide chain disruptions, worth will increase and rising transportation prices proceed to have a pronounced impact on our enterprise within the fourth quarter. In spherical numbers, we estimate that we might have shipped an extra $2 million in merchandise in the course of the quarter however for delays in receiving the elements essential to fill these orders.
The backlog in our provides enterprise which usually is about 5 days has just lately been operating within the neighborhood of 15 to twenty days. And that’s regardless of considerably beefing up our provides stock in an effort to assist mitigate any potential delays. We’re additionally seeing steep will increase in transportation prices. To place these will increase into context, freight in costs have been up greater than $600,000 on a sequential foundation in This fall. And greater than $700,000 year-over-year. We’re taking steps to deal with these value dynamics in a variety of methods together with leveraging our pricing energy to mitigate the affect of inflation and the rise in transportation prices.
We anticipate to start realizing advantages of those actions as we transfer into the second half of our fiscal yr. With that as a backdrop let me briefly evaluate our outcomes which included increased whole revenues for the quarter and full yr intervals regardless of the macroeconomic challenges. Complete income was up roughly $260,000 for the fourth quarter to $29.7 million. As a 20% enhance in Check & Measurement income greater than offset a 4% decline in Product Identification. Complete income for the yr elevated 1% to $117.5 million. Will increase in provides and repair income have been key drivers in each intervals. In each the quarter and full yr, we proceed to ship strong recurring income streams.
Provides accounted for roughly 62% of income for the fourth quarter and the complete yr. {Hardware} comprised 28% and 27% of income for the quarter and full yr intervals respectively, whereas our service/different accounted for 10% of income for the quarter and 11% for the yr. Bookings have been sturdy at $32.9 million within the fourth quarter, up 12.4% from the fourth quarter of fiscal 2021. Bookings for the fiscal ’22 got here in at $128.6 million, up 13.2% year-over-year.
Turning now to our phase. Fiscal 2022 marked the product identification phase’s ninth consecutive yr of income progress. We proceed to be more than happy with the sturdy efficiency of our direct-to-package printing options such because the T3-OPX, which had a file yr in fiscal 2022. Exponential progress of the e-commerce channel over the previous two years performs instantly into the strengths of the T3-OPX. With increasingly items being delivered to prospects’ doorsteps, the demand has elevated for the usage of secondary packaging, each to guard the products throughout transport and to supply one other branding alternative for the retailer.
The T3-OPX is a best-in-class system designed for overprinting or post-printing on all kinds of supplies and packaging substrates. By utilizing renewable substrates, the T3-OPX additionally allows package deal printers to fulfill the shoppers’ sustainable packaging preferences. Sustainability is a megatrend that’s driving a sea change within the packaging trade. Trivium Packaging’s 2021 Shopping for Inexperienced Report discovered that 67% of shoppers shopping for recyclability of packaging essential. Whereas 73% are literally keen to pay extra for eco-friendly packaging. Our T3-OPX system additionally performs instantly into one other mega-trend influencing the direct to package deal printing market and that’s model expertise.
WestRock’s pulse packaging survey exhibits that for a majority of shoppers, packaging influences product satisfaction. The survey additionally demonstrates the significance of key sustainability options corresponding to environmentally pleasant design and the benefit of recycling. So there’s a clear hyperlink between sustainability and model expertise. The third packaging megatrend that’s related to our enterprise is provide chain agility, producers desire a package deal design that’s not solely e-commerce pleasant, but additionally cost-effective and quickly adaptable to the altering regulatory atmosphere and speedy shifting in client preferences.
Provide chain agility additionally requires packaging that’s digitalization-ready by enabling automation, real-time monitoring and different advantages that enhances client confidence. We imagine that the worth proposition of our direct-to-package printing expertise creates sustainable aggressive benefit for AstroNova. Trying forward within the PI phase, we anticipate to launch two new merchandise that construct on our management within the label printing and direct-to-package printing markets within the subsequent few months. We imagine that these new merchandise will make it even simpler for our prospects to develop full coloration, high-quality labels and packaging that distinguishes their manufacturers. Keep tuned for extra.
Switching now to our Check & Measurement phase, with an ongoing rebound within the industrial air journey within the US, Europe and different areas, the phase delivered improved outcomes. Income elevated 20% within the fourth quarter and three% within the full yr versus the identical intervals of fiscal 2021. T&M phase working margins additionally have been up properly, significantly in mild of the upper manufacturing and transportation prices that now we have skilled. One want solely have a look at the each day TSA checkpoint journey numbers to see the numerous enchancment in passenger site visitors from calendar 2021. And whereas home passenger site visitors has rebounded sooner than different routes, the airline trade expects to see a return to pre-pandemic ranges in 2023 and 2024.
In keeping with the ramp up in air site visitors, we’re seeing a rise in each printer provide gross sales in addition to restore providers. On the identical time, the multi-year backlogs at each for the Boeing 737 MAX and Airbus A320 aircrafts are rising which each pertain properly for the gross sales of our aerospace merchandise sooner or later.
With that, I’ll flip the decision over to David.
David S. Smith — Vice President, Treasurer and Chief Monetary Officer
Thanks, Greg, and good morning, all people. I’ll launch proper in. Our fourth quarter value of products bought and gross margins have been adversely affected by the availability chain and the inflationary headwinds which have impacted us in addition to so many different industries over the previous yr.
Whereas whole income was up barely within the quarter, gross margin in This fall was down 450 foundation factors to 32.8% from 37.2% within the prior yr quarter. And gross margin was down 320 foundation factors from the third quarter this yr. The lower was on account of each increased cluster of products and to a lesser diploma unfavorable combine. For the complete yr, gross margin improved 160 foundation factors to 37.2% pushed primarily by our favorable gross margin comparisons to the prior yr within the first 9 months.
Within the fourth quarter comparisons to the prior yr, we’ve been hit by increased labor prices, increased materials prices and considerably increased freight prices which spiked considerably within the fourth quarter as have been compelled to pay for expedited transport to get elements on time, generally even by airfreighting them excessive of the identical items being shipped and the charges we’re paying are loads increased as properly.
Within the quarterly comparisons to the third quarter of the FY ’22 yr, all the identical components have been obvious. Once more the freight value spike was dramatically increased within the fourth quarter. income by kind, we proceed to have good strong recurring income, {hardware} accounted for 28% of income within the quarter in comparison with 31% within the quarter final yr. Provides accounted for 62% of income within the quarter versus 60% final yr. Service and different income was 10% within the quarter. Roughly flat in share phrases, however up a few quarter of $1 million in comparison with the fourth quarter of fiscal ’21. For the complete yr {hardware} accounted for 27% of whole income in contrast with 29% in fiscal ’21.
Provides income was 62% of income for each fiscal ’22 and financial ’21 and our service enterprise accounted for 11% of income in fiscal ’22 versus 9% of income within the prior yr. As Greg urged, this displays the rebound within the Aerospace portion of our T&M phase. Turning to income by geography, home income comprised 57.3% of the overall for the quarter in comparison with 55.9% within the fourth quarter a yr in the past. Worldwide income was 42.7% for the quarter down from 44.1% a yr earlier.
For the complete yr, home income accounted for 58% for fiscal ’22 versus 60.1% in fiscal 2021. Worldwide income got here in at 42% for the yr up from 38.9% in fiscal ’21. Income from Europe, Canada, Asia was up double digits whereas the US income declined 4% for the yr. Working bills elevated 1.5% within the quarterly comparability or roughly, $145,000 to $10 million reflecting increased R&D bills associated to the brand new product growth that Greg talked about, partly offset by modest reductions within the SG&A and promoting and advertising and marketing areas.
On a full yr foundation, opex was up 1.4% or $557,000 to $39.5 million, which once more primarily mirrored our increased R&D. This yr, working bills did enhance from final yr’s COVID induced gross sales and advertising and marketing expense reduce interval, however I ought to word not very a lot. Adjusted EBITDA, which is earnings earlier than curiosity, taxes, depreciation, amortization and share-based comp was $773,000 for the fourth quarter this yr and $13.2 million for the complete yr intervals this yr. This compares with $3.1 million and $10.9 million for a similar intervals in fiscal ’21.
On the underside line, this quarter, we reported a internet lack of $758,000 or $0.10 a share in comparison with internet revenue of $837,000 or $0.12 per diluted share in fiscal ’21. For full yr on a GAAP foundation 2022, we generated internet revenue of $6.4 million or $0.88 per diluted share in contrast with internet revenue of $1.3 million or $0.18 per diluted share in fiscal 2021. This yr’s internet revenue included about $4.4 million or $0.60 of diluted earnings per share from the PPP mortgage forgiveness.
phase outcomes, Product Identification reported a fourth quarter phase working revenue of $1.5 million or 6.5% of income. This compares to $3.1 million or 13.2% of income within the prior yr fourth quarter once more reflecting increased manufacturing and procurement prices. On a full yr foundation. Product Identification phase working revenue was $10.4 million or 11.5% of income versus $12.9 million or 14.3% in fiscal 2021. Check & Measurement phase working revenue improved within the quarter, coming in at nearly $0.5 million or 6.8% of income in contrast with $282,000 — in contrast with $282,000 or 4.6% of income a yr earlier. The development underscores the accelerating degree of exercise inside the Aerospace enterprise that Greg famous.
On a full yr foundation, the T&M phase had an working revenue of $3.4 million or 12.8% of income. In fiscal 2022 in comparison with an working lack of $1 million in fiscal 2021. As Greg famous, the order momentum exiting fiscal 2022 is powerful with full yr bookings within the T&M phase operating 50% forward of fiscal 2021. Turning to the stability sheet, money and equivalents at yr finish totaled $5.3 million in comparison with $11.4 million on the finish of fiscal ’21. The decline is instantly linked to makes use of to assist operations, particularly, stock. Stock is up $4.5 million over final yr largely to counteract shortages and procurement delays. However our monetary place stays very sturdy.
Earlier than I hand it again to Greg, I’ll simply point out that the brand new ERP system for home operations went dwell efficiently initially of the fourth quarter. This may be a significant enterprise and accomplishment for an organization of any dimension and significantly for us in the course of the COVID period. The ERP funding has consumed substantial sources over the previous few years, each individuals and capital. It’s working successfully, although we’ve skilled some pure adjustment features [Phonetic]. As inside ERPs expertise, we are going to take a little bit of time for us to completely harmonize your complete system, with actually the heaviest itemizing is out of the best way.
We stay extraordinarily enthusiastic this can allow environment friendly progress as we scale the corporate over time. Now, I suppose, I’ll flip the decision again to you Greg for closing feedback.
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
Thanks, David. So we enter fiscal 2023 in sturdy form financially and operationally. We proceed to execute on our technique to develop organically by means of the event of recent merchandise and thru complementary M&A that allows us to construct on our management positions. Subsequent month, we can be presenting and internet hosting one-on-ones on the Sidoti Microcap Digital Convention. Please verify the Occasions & Shows part of our Buyers web page for the presentation time.
Now David and I can be pleased to take your questions. Operator?
Questions and Solutions:
Operator
Thanks. [Operator Instructions] And we are going to take our first query from Samir Patel from Askeladden Capital.
Samir Patel — Askeladden Capital — Analyst
Hey, good morning, guys.
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
Good morning.
David S. Smith — Vice President, Treasurer and Chief Monetary Officer
Good morning.
Samir Patel — Askeladden Capital — Analyst
So I suppose, let’s begin on the inflation piece. So I believe you talked about in your ready remarks that you just have been anticipating to form of see some profit out of your actions there within the second half of the fiscal yr. I used to be curious — I used to be curious form of why you suppose it should take that lengthy? Is it due to you’re nonetheless utilizing a few of that expedited freight? You talked about form of like gas surcharges and issues that a few of your suppliers had placed on. I suppose, I’m questioning why it’s taking longer to move these alongside to year-end shoppers.
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
So we’re being slightly conservative on that, Samir, however a few issues. So worth will increase, it will depend on what sort of agreements now we have with our prospects. Proper. So generally there’s blanket settlement. So it isn’t like we will elevate the value as we speak and tomorrow, then pay the next worth. That’s true for a variety of merchandise, however a few of them are restricted that manner. So now we have to attend for time-outs of these current agreements.
In order that’s one a part of it and the opposite is, the opposite operational issues we’re doing that might mitigate that, now we have issues which might be coming by sea, but additionally within the meantime we’re flying them by air, as a result of see is taking for much longer than it used to. So we anticipate to be on primarily a sea supply schedule for a few of our heavier and bigger purchases from completely different elements of the world by the top of Q2. In order that’s — these form of all performs into that.
Samir Patel — Askeladden Capital — Analyst
Okay. That is smart. And I believe you talked about $2 million value of orders that you just didn’t handle to ship within the quarter, did you escape, have been these largely product identification or Check & Measurement?
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
It was form of a mixture. I didn’t breakout which of them have been which, however it actually affected each teams and generally it’s, some minor issues like solid-state drives that we anticipated a month earlier than the top of the quarter and so they got here in principally a month after the top of the quarter. So, affected PI to, there’s, you would possibly pay attention to that within the — in Finland, there’s a strike, which plenty of the paper supplies, they’re used for — to our provides. So we discovered alternate provides for that, however there’s plenty of leaping round it’s important to do, if the availability chain will get damaged. So if — we do have alternate options for that now, however that did affect us as properly.
Samir Patel — Askeladden Capital — Analyst
Okay. All proper. I’ve just a few extra, however I’ll get again within the queue and I’ll ask if another person has something.
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
Okay, nice.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] We are going to now take the query from John Deysher from Pinnacle.
John Deysher — Pinnacle — Analyst
Good morning. I simply have a few fast questions. Is there any stock left on the 737 MAX that needs to be labored by means of earlier than they’ll begin producing new ones?
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
They’re truly doing that in parallel. So the manufacturing line we’re following continues to ramp up for a brand new plane. And in parallel, I don’t know precisely the place they’re on the items that they method [Phonetic] so far as these deliveries. However that could be a form of a parallel perform.
John Deysher — Pinnacle — Analyst
Do you now…
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
Earlier than the opposite [Speech Overlap].
John Deysher — Pinnacle — Analyst
All proper. However are you aware what the stock is of the prevailing 737 MAX at this level.
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
I don’t know that precisely proper now. I do know it’s been — I do know, it’s been forward of their schedule on these, however I don’t know precisely what the rest is.
John Deysher — Pinnacle — Analyst
Okay, truthful sufficient.
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
However, and as we talked about earlier than these have already got our printers on the brand new course.
John Deysher — Pinnacle — Analyst
All proper. I used to be simply going [Speech Overlap]. Proper. Okay. The opposite query is, I believe plenty of aircraft producers, Boeing and Airbus particularly depend on Russia for a good quantity of their titanium and I’m simply questioning with the state of affairs there, whether or not there’s any discuss of titanium shortages or bottlenecks or something like that?
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
I haven’t heard that. I used to be — I’m truly in Europe proper now. I used to be at Airbus yesterday and there was no concern that they’d — within the workforce I used to be with anyway, it was extra of, they actually speaking to us about, are you able to ramp up quick sufficient to fulfill their schedule, they’ve fairly aggressive schedules. So there wasn’t any dialogue in any respect about them having points with deliveries. It’s extra a matter of, are you able to guys, us being suppliers, ship to us as quick as we wish you to develop.
John Deysher — Pinnacle — Analyst
Okay, all proper. That’s my questions. Thanks.
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
Certain.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] We are going to now take the following query from Tom Spiro [Phonetic] from Spiro [Phonetic] Capital.
Tom Spiro — Spiro Capital — Analyst
Tom Spiro, Spiro Capital. Good morning.
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
Hello, Tom, good to listen to from you. Good morning.
Tom Spiro — Spiro Capital — Analyst
Sure, certainly. Sure, certainly, good to be on the decision, on product Identification, I see that for the yr, gross sales have been up $600,000, you talked about that the T3-OPX [Phonetic] had a file yr, that’s fantastic information. I puzzled provided that the phase gross sales have been a modestly, I’m wondering how the opposite printers are doing. There can be different stuff we promote.
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
Yeah. So it’s a mixture. They’re all form of transferring in the proper course, however not quick sufficient. We’ve had some, slightly little bit of overlap on among the merchandise, we see slightly bit sooner motion within the tabletop within the final couple of quarters to be trustworthy with you versus among the bigger ones. I believe the — within the Trojan line the T3-OPX form of actually run on the market and we’ve received extra individuals interested by that and inserting a number of orders. We’re additionally lended variety of good OEM offers for the T3-OPX which helps to speed up these gross sales as properly.
One factor that’s form of nonetheless slowing down, little bit of a drag on the PI enterprise basically nonetheless is the — in Asia, clearly there’s plenty of points when it comes to simply getting out and doing any form of gross sales actions in addition to commerce exhibits. However simply in the course of the finish of the yr, we received, properly, there was an uptick after which they shut down, then again up once more when it comes to the commerce exhibits. In order that’s certainly one of our largest sources for lead. In order that did affect form of good chunk of the yr, however they appear to be again fairly properly proper now within the final a number of months, we’ve performed a variety of exhibits, all with good outcomes, good prove. And the one factor I might say about these is that the individuals which might be attending the exhibits now are actually extra energetic consumers, persons are actually have sturdy curiosity versus sellers form of trying round to see what’s there. So…
Tom Spiro — Spiro Capital — Analyst
I see, and I word from the press launch, the unusually excessive guarantee costs. What’s that each one about?
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
So we had a pair points with — I gained’t identify it with suppliers are, however they delivered poor high quality product to us and it received into the availability chain and we needed to primarily return and retrofit, restore and substitute relying on what the merchandise was to get these items again up and operating in full manufacturing mode. So it was actually an unplanned occasion and it did take a good period of time and a little bit of value to really deal with that, however yeah the answer has been put in place and form of put in that behind us as just a few possibly, I tackle 100% of the repairs on the market, however it’s a identified answer, we didn’t get to the underside line there when it comes to what the foundation trigger was, we have been in a position to hint it again.
And in some case we did pre-emptive upgrades or replacements. So possibly wish to do is be sure our prospects at all times have an incredible product expertise and we form of jumped on that immediately, however it’s — a bit pricey to do.
Tom Spiro — Spiro Capital — Analyst
I see, I see. And if you say that $2 million in gross sales have been pushed from This fall into subsequent yr, is that {hardware}, I might guess or is it provides or every thing what’s that?
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
Yeah, it’s {hardware} and provides. So provides, primarily on the media aspect, I imply there have been some, some form of, one thing can and toner bits to that, some individuals need full shipments, you may’t do one with out the opposite. However our — our Media Group, it was simply — the great half clearly was the orders are ramping up, it’s only a matter of maintaining with it. And even in This fall. We did have a few of these, I suppose we name it the COVID quarantine lockouts the place one individual in a piece group for instance take a look at optimistic, after which our function internally is that anybody who has contact with that particular person. And the Rhode Island, it’s primarily Rhode Island, they’ve to remain out for 5 days, then be retested after they can come again. So we had some manpower points on the media aspect as properly. I believe I discussed in my feedback, we’re form of in that 15 to twenty day vary proper now. And usually we’d prefer to ship our media 5 days or much less.
Tom Spiro — Spiro Capital — Analyst
And if you communicate of provide chain difficulties, is that principally on the {hardware} aspect and the availability aspect or once more it’s each?
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
It’s truly, yeah, it’s each. Yeah. The transportation prices are killers. A few of the hardest issues although that to get a fast substitute for could be clearly is true. So a few of these are difficult circuits. FPGAs and issues like that, we actually do is form of exit to generally, we get the provider doesn’t have it, our predominant wholesaler doesn’t have it, now we have to undergo third-party sources. Typically, we’re profitable in getting these merchandise, however not utilizing the time we wish and normally now we have to pay these guys, the place we find yourself discovering the elements.
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Tom Spiro — Spiro Capital — Analyst
I see after which much less…
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
Comparatively loads. Yeah.
Tom Spiro — Spiro Capital — Analyst
I see. I see. And lastly, whereas again you suspended the dividend, your stability sheet is in fairly good condition now, and what are your ideas about reinstating a dividend, a subsize.
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
One thing, comes up on the Board conferences, and the actual fact, now we have s Board assembly afterward as we speak. So it’s at all times a subject that we cowl and the Board will check out that and determine what’s the perfect allocation of capital, so keep tuned, if there’s something like that. We had a preliminary Board assembly already. We now have a follow-up one as we speak. Yeah. In the event that they determine to do it. It is going to be up the 8-Okay and one reply [Phonetic].
Tom Spiro — Spiro Capital — Analyst
Okay. Effectively, thanks a lot. Good luck.
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
All proper. Thanks, Tom.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] We are going to now take the follow-up query from Samir Patel from Askeladden Capital.
Samir Patel — Askeladden Capital — Analyst
Hey, so, within the shut of your feedback, you talked about M& and I used to be questioning if that was one thing you have been nearer to than you had been at any level over the previous few years.
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
Effectively, Samir, yeah. Sure. With respect to — we’re form of out of the ball sport, as a result of for banking causes and whatnot.
Samir Patel — Askeladden Capital — Analyst
Proper.
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
So we did — we did restart form of filling the funnel and interesting in conversations once more actually within the fourth quarter. So am I — what I can say is now we have some issues within the funnel, some look good, some we’ve already washed out, I imply I believe I discussed earlier than, is it actually greater than 90% of the issues we’ve take an in depth have a look at, we find yourself not going ahead for one motive or one other, however the exercise degree is unquestionably up when it comes to our group that does check out these acquisition alternatives. And I can say, now we have fairly just a few that look attention-grabbing. So, ideally, we will shut a number of of these this yr.
Samir Patel — Askeladden Capital — Analyst
And would you be targeted extra on product ID or T&M?
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
It actually form of relies upon which one providers first with the proper numbers to be trustworthy with you. We now have good alternatives with each. It’s a matter of what deal can we transfer first, and relying on the scale, we could possibly do each relying on what the offers are and what the timing is in dimension and so forth, however yeah, we will use there’s issues that we’re that might be nice so as to add in each camps.
Samir Patel — Askeladden Capital — Analyst
Understood. That sounds pretty concrete. So I suppose it’s — I suppose it sounds prefer it’s extra a matter of worth or diligence versus whether or not or not an attention-grabbing acquisition.
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
Yeah, that’s how we do it — comparatively conservative about it. So we wish to guarantee that it’s accretive comparatively quick and that it’s a very good match, and that we really feel, it gels properly with doing so. It must be instantly in a kind of three product teams that we presently have or form of an in depth adjacency that use an analogous expertise. We’re not trying to go too far afield. I imply we get issues over the transom from our bankers on a regular basis, however we’re not going to go very far afield from the place we’re already planning.
Samir Patel — Askeladden Capital — Analyst
That is smart. After which following up on the earlier caller’s query about aircraft manufacturing, so clearly MAX manufacturing is ramping up fairly, fairly properly as you talked about with Airbus, that’s additionally, you recognize, they’ve a fairly aggressive ramp schedule for the 320neo household. I do know I’ve requested you this earlier than, however I simply wish to affirm, form of, if something has modified primarily based on the present atmosphere, just like the orders you shipped in This fall, like, how does that relate to form of Airbus or Boeing manufacturing charges in This fall, you form of forward of them, behind them, simply making an attempt to determine form of how we must always take into consideration these revenues ramping over the course of this fiscal yr.
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
Yeah. So relying on the actual program and whether or not it’s SFE to BFE the place the airways buy it after which ship it to the producer. It will depend on which aircraft, we’re speaking about, however sometimes we’re three to 6 months forward of time that we are going to be transport product. That is going to go onto a aircraft. I might say, don’t wish to lower it too shut. In order that’s sometimes the vary that you just have a look at. So we in all probability — on common three, 4 months from, when you have a look at the manufacturing numbers.
Samir Patel — Askeladden Capital — Analyst
So when you lag, lead these by three to 4 months.
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
We lead, after which with the manufacturing numbers that come out, we are going to ship these three earlier than in all probability, possibly 4 months earlier than.
Samir Patel — Askeladden Capital — Analyst
Okay. So it is best to…
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
[Speech Overlap] to — received forward, sorry.
Samir Patel — Askeladden Capital — Analyst
I used to be simply going to say, it is best to type of see the profit fairly materially over the following quarter or two from the ramp-up, that’s going to occur, form of, in the direction of the top of this yr.
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
Yeah. It seems to be, I imply, in each camps on these two aircrafts, you talked about, we do have their manufacturing schedules and so they’ve been bumping them up and never again. Like I mentioned my Airbus assembly yesterday was very aggressive, however you recognize, we’re a small a part of the aircraft, however we get to take pleasure in that ramp up.
Samir Patel — Askeladden Capital — Analyst
Received it, okay. I recognize it. That’s all I had. Thanks.
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
Certain. Thanks.
Operator
And as there are not any additional questions in the intervening time, I’ll flip the decision again to Greg Woods for the closing feedback.
Gregory A. Woods — President and Chief Government Officer
Thanks. All proper. Effectively, thanks everybody for becoming a member of us right here this morning and we stay up for protecting you up to date on our progress. Have a very good weekend. I do know.
Operator
[Operator Closing Remarks]